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	<title>Comments on: Mac build farm standardization headaches: RFC</title>
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		<title>By: Virtualization For Mac OS X? &#183;  Get Latest Mozilla Firefox Browsers</title>
		<link>http://coop.deadsquid.com/2006/11/mac-build-farm-standardization-headaches-rfc/comment-page-1/#comment-19077</link>
		<dc:creator>Virtualization For Mac OS X? &#183;  Get Latest Mozilla Firefox Browsers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] le code all day long.  One problem with virtualization and cross platform building is that Mac OS X doesn&#8217;t run in any virtualization environment (because of Apple&#8217;s interest in selling hardw [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] le code all day long.  One problem with virtualization and cross platform building is that Mac OS X doesn&rsquo;t run in any virtualization environment (because of Apple&rsquo;s interest in selling hardw [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Virtualization For Mac OS X? &#124; Robert Accettura&#8217;s Fun With Wordage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virtualization For Mac OS X? &#124; Robert Accettura&#8217;s Fun With Wordage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] le code all day long.  One problem with virtualization and cross platform building is that Mac OS X doesn&#8217;t run in any virtualization environment (because of Apple&#8217;s interest in selling hardw [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] le code all day long.  One problem with virtualization and cross platform building is that Mac OS X doesn&#8217;t run in any virtualization environment (because of Apple&#8217;s interest in selling hardw [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AsDePicas</title>
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		<dc:creator>AsDePicas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can try a &#039;freed&#039; kernel in order to be able to use a virtual machine:

http://semthex.freeflux.net/nebukadnezar-faq/

This allows the installation on VmWare et al, though i don&#039;t know if the modifications make it invalid for your purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can try a &#8216;freed&#8217; kernel in order to be able to use a virtual machine:</p>
<p><a href="http://semthex.freeflux.net/nebukadnezar-faq/" rel="nofollow">http://semthex.freeflux.net/nebukadnezar-faq/</a></p>
<p>This allows the installation on VmWare et al, though i don&#8217;t know if the modifications make it invalid for your purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: robcee</title>
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		<dc:creator>robcee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Coop,

I was just flipping through some news items and found this:

http://www.faronics.com/html/DFMac.asp

It might do what you want and is a UB. Don&#039;t know if it&#039;ll manage serial number munging or not.

As for the opposite of &quot;embrace&quot;, it&#039;s clearly &quot;shoo&quot;. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Coop,</p>
<p>I was just flipping through some news items and found this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.faronics.com/html/DFMac.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.faronics.com/html/DFMac.asp</a></p>
<p>It might do what you want and is a UB. Don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;ll manage serial number munging or not.</p>
<p>As for the opposite of &#8220;embrace&#8221;, it&#8217;s clearly &#8220;shoo&#8221;. <img src='http://coop.deadsquid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least when apple starts shipping virtualization you should (hopefully) be able to run different Mac OS X versions in the same box</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least when apple starts shipping virtualization you should (hopefully) be able to run different Mac OS X versions in the same box</p>
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		<title>By: kj</title>
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		<dc:creator>kj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opposite of embrace?

&quot;Exbrace,&quot; of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opposite of embrace?</p>
<p>&#8220;Exbrace,&#8221; of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: CCC - two problems here that I can see:

1) Lack of Universal Binary - not a showstopper, because honestly, how often are you going to be cloning disks, but still a performance hit for running under Rosetta; and,

2) I &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; read the website, and have not found mention of how serial number munging is handled in the mass deployment scenario. This will break the interaction with management server for admin, updates, etc. that we have now.

In fact, after delving deeper into the &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.bombich.com/viewtopic.php?t=8678&amp;highlight=serial+number&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CCC forums&lt;/a&gt;, it  would seem that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bombich.com/software/netrestore.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NetRestore&lt;/a&gt; is the product that we really should be considering. This would address Eric&#039;s comment as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: CCC &#8211; two problems here that I can see:</p>
<p>1) Lack of Universal Binary &#8211; not a showstopper, because honestly, how often are you going to be cloning disks, but still a performance hit for running under Rosetta; and,</p>
<p>2) I <em>have</em> read the website, and have not found mention of how serial number munging is handled in the mass deployment scenario. This will break the interaction with management server for admin, updates, etc. that we have now.</p>
<p>In fact, after delving deeper into the <a href="http://forums.bombich.com/viewtopic.php?t=8678&amp;highlight=serial+number" rel="nofollow">CCC forums</a>, it  would seem that <a href="http://www.bombich.com/software/netrestore.html" rel="nofollow">NetRestore</a> is the product that we really should be considering. This would address Eric&#8217;s comment as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may want to look into netbooting from a network disk image (or net restores). That&#039;s a very common setup for labs.

Various releases of 10.4.7 exist for hardware enablement, to support new systems that the original 10.4.7 didn&#039;t support.

I _believe_ (not sure) that it would be a good idea to move to 10.4.8 / Xcode 2.4.1 . My understanding is that it makes it simpler to prepare for Leopard compatibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may want to look into netbooting from a network disk image (or net restores). That&#8217;s a very common setup for labs.</p>
<p>Various releases of 10.4.7 exist for hardware enablement, to support new systems that the original 10.4.7 didn&#8217;t support.</p>
<p>I _believe_ (not sure) that it would be a good idea to move to 10.4.8 / Xcode 2.4.1 . My understanding is that it makes it simpler to prepare for Leopard compatibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Armstrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carbon Copy Cloner.  Read the website, it does what you want.  I used to maintain computer labs with dozens of Macs with different hardware (G4 and G5).  You just make your image on your most advanced Mac (to make sure all the drivers you need are there), and then use Carbon Copy Cloner to put that image on all your other machines.  It really works like a charm.

I am not sure I understand your serial number problem, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carbon Copy Cloner.  Read the website, it does what you want.  I used to maintain computer labs with dozens of Macs with different hardware (G4 and G5).  You just make your image on your most advanced Mac (to make sure all the drivers you need are there), and then use Carbon Copy Cloner to put that image on all your other machines.  It really works like a charm.</p>
<p>I am not sure I understand your serial number problem, though.</p>
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